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Latest posts from topic “Problema passaggio da Thevenin a Norton” Latest posts from topic “Problema passaggio da Thevenin a Norton” on “ElectroYou”. 2015-11-20T19:41:26Z https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61339 Re: Problema passaggio da Thevenin a Norton https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61339#p615563 Eneru 2015-11-24T12:14:16Z 2015-11-24T12:14:16Z
Grazie per la risposta e scusate per il ritardo.
Re: Problema passaggio da Thevenin a Norton https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61339#p614881 IsidoroKZ 2015-11-20T19:57:47Z 2015-11-20T19:57:47Z
Credo il problema sia nell'aver preso la corrente i entrante. Tutti i conti potrebbero essere giusti (non li ho verificati), ma quando calcoli la corrente I0 come Veq/Req assumi di avere una corrente uscente dall'equivalente (corrente in rosso), tu l'hai presa entrante e quindi ti perdi un segno meno.

Problema passaggio da Thevenin a Norton https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61339#p614878 Eneru 2015-11-20T19:41:26Z 2015-11-20T19:41:26Z
Ciao a tutti avrei un problema che non capisco quando passo dal modello equivalente di Thevenin a quello di Norton.

In questo esercizio si chiede di trovare il modello equivalente di Thevenin e Norton:
R_{1}=\frac{1}{2}\Omega
R_{2}=1\Omega
R_{3}=2\Omega
Vi posto il circuito con i nomi che ho dato alle correnti e le tensioni sono prese seguendo la convenzione degli utilizzatori (non le ho segnate nel disegno perchè usciva troppo confusionario) e tutti i passaggi e cosi mi dite se per caso ho sbagliato qualcosa:

v_{R_{1}}=v
i_{R_{1}}=\frac{v_{R_{1}}}{\frac{1}{2}}=2v
KCL al nodo in alto a sinistra: [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula]

Trovo allora: [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula]

KCL al nodo in basso a sinistra: i_{R_{1}}+i_{R_{3}}-i=0\Rightarrow i_{R_{3}}=i-i_{R_{1}}=i-2v

Ora trovo la caduta di tensione su R3: v_{R_{3}}=2\cdot i_{R_{3}}=2i-4v

KVL alla maglia "centrale":
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Riordinando:
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Quindi il modello equivalente di Thevenin è:

E l'equazione vale:
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Mentre per Norton mi risulta:

Con equazione:
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Quello che vorrei sapere è che se l'avessi fatto con il metodo delle prove semplici avrei ottenuto thevenin uguale, ma poi per passare a Norton e trovare i0 avrei dovuto fare:
i_{0}=\frac{v_{0}}{R_{eq}}=\frac{\frac{E_{0}}{7+\alpha }}{\frac{3}{7+\alpha }}=+\frac{E_{0}}{3}

Quello che non capisco è come mai facendo in questo modo mi risulta un segno sbagliato per i0???