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Latest posts from topic “Thévenin-Norton con generatori pilotati” Latest posts from topic “Thévenin-Norton con generatori pilotati” on “ElectroYou”. 2016-05-31T14:04:10Z https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64375 Re: Thévenin-Norton con generatori pilotati https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64375#p652332 g.schgor 2016-05-31T18:46:22Z 2016-05-31T18:46:22Z
Attenzione! nel circuito originale (post[1])
il generatore i non c'è, quindi Vab è data
dal generatore di tensione E=5V e V0 è stato
giustamente calcolato nel post[3].
OK per l'edit.
Re: Thévenin-Norton con generatori pilotati https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64375#p652324 DLz 2016-05-31T18:31:42Z 2016-05-31T18:31:42Z


Applicando la legge di Kirchhoff alla maglia M1 percorrendola in verso orario, ho: V + V0 + i3Z3 = 0 no?


Edit: errore mio, i3Z3+V0 è proprio V, giusto?
Re: Thévenin-Norton con generatori pilotati https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64375#p652317 g.schgor 2016-05-31T18:06:52Z 2016-05-31T18:06:52Z
Perché Vab negativo (dopo tutto quello che è stato detto sui segni)?

Per il calcolo della Vth (riferito al circuito del post[1])
Vth = V0 + ip \cdot Z3
dove: \quad V0=-3+j3 \quad . e :  \quad ip=2 \cdot V0 = -6 + j6
quindi:
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Re: Thévenin-Norton con generatori pilotati https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64375#p652286 DLz 2016-05-31T16:30:30Z 2016-05-31T16:30:30Z
Ok, adesso ho trovato anch'io i tuoi risultati (avevo dimenticato un j).
Ho fatto anche una prova, ho preso dei versi opposti e trovo [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula].
è comunque un risultato accettabile?
La mia Eth (quella che ho trovato nel post 5, pagina 1) è corretta?
Mi viene [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula]
Re: Thévenin-Norton con generatori pilotati https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64375#p652268 g.schgor 2016-05-31T15:31:54Z 2016-05-31T15:31:54Z
V0= - 0.5+j0.5

per cui : Vab = 0.5+j0.5
Re: Thévenin-Norton con generatori pilotati https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64375#p652264 DLz 2016-05-31T15:13:21Z 2016-05-31T15:13:21Z
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E poiché Zth=\frac{Vab}{i} ma i l'abbiamo imposta unitaria, allora [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula]Ω
Re: Thévenin-Norton con generatori pilotati https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64375#p652257 g.schgor 2016-05-31T14:57:49Z 2016-05-31T14:57:49Z
No. Allora vediamo dove sbagli i calcoli:
V0=?
Vab=?
Re: Thévenin-Norton con generatori pilotati https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64375#p652254 DLz 2016-05-31T14:31:52Z 2016-05-31T14:31:52Z
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Re: Thévenin-Norton con generatori pilotati https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64375#p652253 g.schgor 2016-05-31T14:18:36Z 2016-05-31T14:18:36Z
Il circuito in questione è quello del post[8]
(e non usa il circuito equivalente).
Tutta la procedura di calcolo è spiegata
nel mio post precedente.
Attento ai segni: Vab è positivo su a.
Aspetto il risultato di Zth.
Re: Thévenin-Norton con generatori pilotati https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64375#p652251 DLz 2016-05-31T14:04:10Z 2016-05-31T14:04:10Z
Grazie mille!
Allora (sempre in referimento alla figura del post 8), pongo 2\cdot V0= ip
Riduco il circuito in questo modo:



Allora ho (equazione dei nodi):I= ip + i (considero le correnti entranti negative e quelle uscenti positive)
I è l'intensità di corrente che scorre su Z3 e sul parallelo di Z1 e Z2.
Allora:
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Quindi:
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Ma 2\cdot V0= ip allora

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E trovo V0 .
Ritorniamo ora al circuito di figura 8. Per trovare V devo applicare la legge di Kirchhoff alla maglia che comprende Z2, Z3 e il generatore di corrente controllato in tensione. Percorro la suddetta maglia in verso orario e quindi ho:

Vab+V0+i3\cdot Z3=0

Ma, poiché i3=2\cdot V0+i

Ho [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula]