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Latest posts from topic “Esercizi vari” Latest posts from topic “Esercizi vari” on “ElectroYou”. 2016-06-13T15:27:21Z https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64617 Re: Esercizi vari https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64617#p654866 alev 2016-06-13T19:33:48Z 2016-06-13T19:33:48Z
Hai ragione, è l'insieme Reale Esteso che comprende "gli infiniti"
\mathbb{\overline R} := \mathbb{R}  \cup \{- \infty, + \infty\}
Re: Esercizi vari https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64617#p654863 fairyvilje 2016-06-13T19:22:50Z 2016-06-13T19:22:50Z
La derivata deve assumere valori in \mathbb{R}. Infinito non appartiene ad \mathbb{R} quindi tecnicamente la derivata non esiste ma solo il suo limite. Il limite della derivata in x=\frac{1}{2} è appunto +\infty
Re: Esercizi vari https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64617#p654861 alev 2016-06-13T19:16:05Z 2016-06-13T19:16:05Z
Nell'asintoto, il valore della derivata sarà \infty ma esiste

EDIT: domani posto l'equazione e verifico
Re: Esercizi vari https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64617#p654853 fairyvilje 2016-06-13T19:01:23Z 2016-06-13T19:01:23Z
Non è definita la derivata destra in x=\frac{1}{2}.
Re: Esercizi vari https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64617#p654848 alev 2016-06-13T18:38:18Z 2016-06-13T18:38:18Z
In quale punto non è derivabile a destra?
Re: Esercizi vari https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64617#p654846 fairyvilje 2016-06-13T18:36:14Z 2016-06-13T18:36:14Z
Non è derivabile a destra. La derivata destra non assume valore in \mathbb{R} per tutti i punti nell'intervallo :)
In particolare non esiste la derivata destra in x=\frac{1}{2}.
Re: Esercizi vari https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64617#p654845 alev 2016-06-13T18:30:17Z 2016-06-13T18:30:17Z
Pero' non mi convince una cosa

Ho immaginato una siffatta curva


E' derivabile a destra nell'intervallo (0,1), ma in x = \frac{1}{2} non è continua
Re: Esercizi vari https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64617#p654830 fairyvilje 2016-06-13T17:39:33Z 2016-06-13T17:39:33Z
No era solo la domanda del quesito :) Quella che segue era la risposta che ho dato all'esercizio.
Re: Esercizi vari https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64617#p654828 alev 2016-06-13T17:31:47Z 2016-06-13T17:31:47Z
[quote="fairyvilje"]Vale la stessa tesi senza l'ipotesi di continuità?

Se questo è il tuo dubbio, credo che la precisazione nasca dalla definizione
derivabile a destra in (0,1) con [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula] per ogni [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula]

Infatti, esiste il teorema della continuità delle funzioni derivabili in un punto, ma siccome nel testo si parla di derivabilità destra, allora si è preferito precisare
Re: Esercizi vari https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64617#p654796 fairyvilje 2016-06-13T15:27:21Z 2016-06-13T15:27:21Z
Esercizio 2. Sia [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula] continua, derivabile a destra in (0,1) con [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula] per ogni [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula]. Si mostri che f è non decrescente. Vale la stessa tesi senza l'ipotesi di continuità?

Una funzione continua sotto queste condizioni significa che [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula] [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula] e che esiste il limite [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula] [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula] che appunto viene chiamato derivata destra. Affinché questa quantità sia positiva, [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula] e quindi [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula]. Essendo valido per ogni x, la funzione non può essere decrescente.
Eliminando l'ipotesi di continuità, l'esistenza della derivata destra implica comunque la continuità a destra. Si ricade quindi comunque nel caso precedente.