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Latest posts from topic “(Esercizio) Risposta impulsiva di un sistema a poli cc” Latest posts from topic “(Esercizio) Risposta impulsiva di un sistema a poli cc” on “ElectroYou”. 2017-09-28T19:59:05Z https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=70926 Re: (Esercizio) Risposta impulsiva di un sistema a poli cc https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=70926#p732043 nics992 2017-09-29T15:53:49Z 2017-09-29T15:53:49Z
Si hai ragione ho sbagliato a scrivere. Grazie per il documento e per le delucidazioni.
Re: (Esercizio) Risposta impulsiva di un sistema a poli cc https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=70926#p732015 xyz 2017-09-29T13:59:39Z 2017-09-29T13:59:39Z
La formula che hai riportato non l'ho mai usata in nessun mio corso.

L'ho cercata, credo che sia sbagliata, è in funzione solo del residuo, invece è in funzione del polo e del residuo. come spiegato in questo documento:

http://ece.gmu.edu/~gbeale/ece_220/complex-pole-pfe.pdf

Riscrivendo la formula dove p è il polo associato al residuo R:

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Re: (Esercizio) Risposta impulsiva di un sistema a poli cc https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=70926#p731998 nics992 2017-09-29T10:56:49Z 2017-09-29T10:56:49Z
È corretta questa formula? Se si, potresti mostrarmi come verrebbe il calcolo della fase del coseno?
Re: (Esercizio) Risposta impulsiva di un sistema a poli cc https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=70926#p731964 nics992 2017-09-29T08:35:59Z 2017-09-29T08:35:59Z
Non fa una grinza. Io ho sempre utilizzato un'altra formula per il calcolo dell'antitrasformata di laplace di una frazione con poli cc, ovvero calcolavo il modulo del residuo 'R' e la sua fase, dopodichè facevo:

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Re: (Esercizio) Risposta impulsiva di un sistema a poli cc https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=70926#p731949 xyz 2017-09-29T00:58:16Z 2017-09-29T00:58:16Z
Io non so' quali passaggi hai fatto, ho solo ipotizzato l'errore dal risultato riportato.

L'equazione scomposta in fratti semplici:

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dall'alti-trasformata unilatera di Laplace (vale per t \geq 0):

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In forma trigonometrica:

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semplificando:

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Re: (Esercizio) Risposta impulsiva di un sistema a poli cc https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=70926#p731943 nics992 2017-09-28T23:45:12Z 2017-09-28T23:45:12Z
Rimossa citazione inutile

Ah ok. Quindi quello che sbaglio io è il segno di \frac{\pi}{2} che invece dovrebbe essere -\frac{\pi}{2}?

Se cosi, potresti mostrarmi tu come lo calcoli? Perchè evidentemente sbaglio il metodo.
Grazie
Re: (Esercizio) Risposta impulsiva di un sistema a poli cc https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=70926#p731929 xyz 2017-09-28T22:37:11Z 2017-09-28T22:37:11Z
Perché è riferito alla tua equazione.
Re: (Esercizio) Risposta impulsiva di un sistema a poli cc https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=70926#p731920 nics992 2017-09-28T21:58:40Z 2017-09-28T21:58:40Z
Scusa, ma se

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perchè qui

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non compare il segno - (meno) ?
Re: (Esercizio) Risposta impulsiva di un sistema a poli cc https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=70926#p731904 xyz 2017-09-28T20:43:12Z 2017-09-28T20:43:12Z
Io ottengo questo risultato:

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dal tuo risultato puoi semplificare in questo modo:

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mancano i passaggi intermedi ma credo che hai sbagliato il segno di \;\frac{\pi}{2}.
(Esercizio) Risposta impulsiva di un sistema a poli cc https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=70926#p731898 nics992 2017-09-28T19:59:05Z 2017-09-28T19:59:05Z
Salve a tutti. Ho provato più volte il calcolo della risposta all'impulso di questo sistema, ma una volta trovata l'equazione dell'uscita nel dominio del tempo, sostituendo valori a 't' non mi vengono i risultati desiserati. La fdt è:

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A questo punto calcolo i fratti semplici e ottengo

A = \frac{50\sqrt{3}i}{3} B = -\frac{50\sqrt{3}i}{3}

Quindi la mia forma dell'uscita nel dominio del tempo:

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Con questo risultato non trovo la soluzione corretta. Potete aiutarmi a farmi capire dove sbaglio? Grazie in anticipo