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Latest posts from topic “Discretizzazione con metodo poli/zeri” Latest posts from topic “Discretizzazione con metodo poli/zeri” on “ElectroYou”. 2019-01-12T22:21:57Z https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=76507 Re: Discretizzazione con metodo poli/zeri https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=76507#p802318 dimaios 2019-01-14T22:04:25Z 2019-01-14T22:04:25Z
Ti invito a guardare bene questa equazione :

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Secondo te è giusta?

[quote="mikoile"]
... scusa ma non riesco ancora a capire quale dei due k_D è quello giusto #-o


Il problema forse non è quale dei due sia quello giusto ma comprendere cosa devi fare.
Il sistema discreto e quello continuo devono "somigliarsi" anche quando dai uno step.
Quello discreto procederà lungo una "gradinata" mentre quello continuo lungo una curva ma alla fine devono somigliarsi e pure parecchio altrimenti la discretizzazione risulta scadente.
In particolare dopo molto tempo da quando hai applicato il gradino in ingresso i due segnali devono essere identici ( condizione di regime ) per cui .... traduci cosa vuol dire questa condizione nel discreto e nel continuo ed avrai la risposta al problema.

In modo analogo ( ed è quello che si di solito per semplicità ) puoi calcolare il guadagno in continua dei due sistemi ( discreto e continuo ) e secondo te come devono essere ?
Re: Discretizzazione con metodo poli/zeri https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=76507#p802312 EdmondDantes 2019-01-14T20:57:01Z 2019-01-14T20:57:01Z
esempi direttamente dal MIT
Re: Discretizzazione con metodo poli/zeri https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=76507#p802306 EdmondDantes 2019-01-14T20:18:08Z 2019-01-14T20:18:08Z
Domani mattina recati presso la biblioteca della tua università e consulta uno dei seguenti testi:
Design and analysis of control systems, di Mutambara.
Feedback control of dynamic systems, di Franklin.
Troverai la risposta che cerchi.

Dovrebbero esserci, altrimenti cerca titoli analoghi.

P.S.
Attento alla relazione di trasformazione che hai usato ;-)
Re: Discretizzazione con metodo poli/zeri https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=76507#p802229 mikoile 2019-01-14T12:37:41Z 2019-01-14T12:37:41Z
considerando T=0.01 ottengo:

considerando il 10:
5=k_D \cdot 211584,23 , k_D=2,36 \cdot 10^{-5}

senza il 10:
5=k_D \cdot 21158,423, k_D=2,36 \cdot 10^{-4}

scusa ma non riesco ancora a capire quale dei due k_D è quello giusto #-o
Re: Discretizzazione con metodo poli/zeri https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=76507#p802138 EdmondDantes 2019-01-13T13:44:40Z 2019-01-13T13:44:40Z
E' un controllo che puoi fare tu stesso, se hai capito quello che stai facendo e perché lo stai facendo.

Il comportamento di [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula] deve essere uguale al comportamento di [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula]

Quindi?
Discretizzazione con metodo poli/zeri https://www.electroyou.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=76507#p802089 mikoile 2019-01-12T22:21:57Z 2019-01-12T22:21:57Z
Salve a tutti, vorrei effettuare la discretizzazione con metodo poli zeri del seguente regolatore analogico:
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Per fare ciò riscrivo [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula] in questo modo:

Considerando un tempo di campionamento molto piccolo T_c<<T effettuo la trasformazione z=e^{-sT} per poli e zeri :
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La costante K_d si ottiene da:
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Quello che mi chiedo è se devo sostituire la costante [unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula]al posto del guadagno 10 o lo devo moltiplicare per quest'ultimo, cioè :

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oppure

[unparseable or potentially dangerous latex formula] ?

Grazie mille per la pazienza :)